Admin, How long does it take to receive payment from you guys via Paypal?

Also, since the contest is over, I won't be able to post new designs so I'll need your email either way. Thanks

Thanks Debbi I will work on the changes. Did you figure out how to officially announce my design as the winner? If it isn't working, please email me at dcord1@yahoo.com and we an discuss further and get you all the files you need. Thanks again and good job to all

Hi dcord1. I would like to accept your drawing #47, it really ties in exactly what the young ladies envisioned, and your style helped a lot as well. Thank you for executing my feedback timely and professionally, and if anyone is reading this who needs a logo ... this guy is great! Looking forward to the changes and formats that we discussed. All the best! Debbi

Debbi - Unfortuantely, i've not seen the contest holder interface so i'm not entirely sure how to select a winner; but, looking at other contest that have been decided... it seems like you can just select a design and determine it's the winner. Perhaps you can click on it and the option will pup up, or maybe it's connected to the rating system? Also, when you emailed the admins, did you use the little form that they have on the site, or did you send them an actual email? The reason I ask is because I had to email them directly to get a response (they might be having problems with their contact app.)

i emailed the admins yesterday morning ... and felt so bad that I didn't announce yesterday, but when I got home late last night, there was no response. I just want to announce 'their' official way, but there is no way that I can see to select a winner. sorry...grr

Not sure but I think there are some admins you can email for help. Good luck I know we are all in suspense

Does anyone know how to pick a winner ... is there a process?

Thank you for all of the entries!

The last thing I wanted to add was that if you do want the web address added to any of the designs, just let me know and I'll be happy to add it for you. I usually leave it off when I'm presenting a logo, because traditionally such things aren't actually considered as part of the "logo" design.

Debbi, I will give you all those file types in both color and black and white. I'll make sure you have no issue no matte what you need to use the logo for. I can send over a zip file with a bunch of file types and designs

Debbi - #70 is another new take on your logo. This is a more sophisticated identity that would sit comfortably in a large variety of marketing settings. I know you have been leaning more towards a more youthful, bright, kind of logo; but, I really think this type of design is something you should strongly consider. A lot of organizations have a much stronger precessence with a nice coporate looking set of marketing materials. Even though it might seem like a smaller operation now, to possible contributors and supports, a nice corporate image can really get them confidant about donating to your efforts. If you do decide, however, that it really isn't the thing for you, I hope that one of my alternative versions will be right on track .

Debbi - 99.9% of all the printers in the U.S. will be able to do most of your printing (posters, flyers, business card, etc.) using a CMYK eps file . Things that arn't being printed, but are being displayed on screen like web graphics, use a RGB format. 99.9% of the time a RGB jpg file will work. I like to supply my clients with all sorts of various formats, just in case, but ultimately you can get most of your production work done with those two files. The only other thing you will need (which I will also provide) will be grayscale and black and white versions of these files. Usually, in a situation like yours, the package I would send over will contain 12-18 different files... but really you only need 2 for most of what you want to do .

dcord1 .. I am afraid that I won't know what I need till I need it .. but will you provide me with color, black and white, .eps, .pdf and .jpg ? Does that cover it for posters, tshirts, and web? All the best!

Debbi, I can provide you the final logo in any format you need. I'll give you a jpeg for smaller format and an eps for larger ones. You can stretch or shrink eps files to whatvere size you need and the quality won't be affected. Also, if you need any file type, I can easily provide it to you. Good luck with your decision

#69 is designed with an artistic style that makes the iconography look like it was drawn or painted by hand. It's another fun and unique way to present your image.

#67 is like the previous versions, except I put a little extra weight on the details in the balls to make sure the finer lines stand out if you scale the logo down. Since you expressed interest in the initial concept, I'll probably post a few different refinements just to give you a few more options. Thanks again.

Debbi - I've sent you a message with all the file format information in it. Let me know if you need any more info. Thanks again for your consideration.

Hi Debbi, please disregard #63, I uploaded a wrong file. Right one is #64. Thanks.

Hi Mitch and groundling, same question ... Can you please tell me what formats you provide the graphic in once a contest is accepted.

dcord1, phew. You scared me. Thank you for your promise. Can you please tell me what formats you provide the graphic in once a contest is accepted. I need to use it small sometimes, and stretch it out big as well. Some places only accept certain formats, and I do not have all of the software to convert, but I imagine you do!

#62 and 59, fun! I see what you mean about your gears ... awesome job! Thanks for the shirt info, it is very helpful.

Mitch, good thinking. yup, the girls will wear shirts with their names. Jahna and Michelle's names will just be on their backs, and we will have 4 that say COACH. Thank you for the design, but my plan is 1 logo, use it everywhere, and pay a little extra to personalize when I need to, but totally separate from the logo.

Dear Debbi, I designed #56 and #57 for the children(all geared up members) who are sponsoring the soccer clinic. I thought their names could be on their shirt. I know you will not put the children's name on the shirt that are attending the soccer clinic.Please give feedback.

Oh, a few more things about getting your shirts printed. The number 1 factor contributing to the cost of your shirts is how many you will have printed. The second factor will be the quality of the shirt they are printed on. Number of colors is pretty much last. However, there are a few things that you want to keep out of your logo or else you might wind up in that photographic (6+) color range without even realizing it. Shadows, like in #47, and gradients, like the gray on the balls of #58, arn't really good to rely on for spot color screen printing. Some place might try to give you the shadow effect by just using a single black color... but it usually winds up muddy looking and not very close to the original artwork. Most places will just want to run a photographic print style on it. Finally, while #57 might have a neat idea, if you are going to be handing these things out, changing the name on your shirts is going to jack the price way up. Like I said earlier, bulk discounts will save you a lot of money on printing, but everytime you change the name on a shirt it will count as a completely new job! There are a lot of good place to get shirts printed from online now for some really economical prices. So, don't forget to shop around before you commit to any specific printer. Sorry for the big wall of text, but I hope the information helps .

In response to your earlier post about the "four color rule," you can pretty much all but ignore that. Screen printing on shirts isn't exactly like printing out of your desktop printer or even a traditional printing press. Basically, it does multiple passes on a shirt, applying a different color each time. This is different than your traditional printers which use a combination of 4 inks mixed together to make multiple colors all in one pass. Back in the day, screen printing equiptment wasn't as sophisticated and setting up for multiple passes usually ment more money. However, a lot of places wont differentiate between 2 - 5 colors (it usually cost the same). The exception is if you use 6 or more colors. Bassically, once you hit 6 colors you move into a photographic reproduction setting, which cost a little more but give you an unlimmited amount of colors to work with (except white). So, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, as long as you are under 6 colors, you should be able to find a reputable printer that can give you a economical price.

Debbi - For my newest design, #59, I've tried to match alot of the concepts from your brief and your posts. I did, however, want to make it look really fun and eye catching. I also wanted to make sure the cogs of the gears had were interlocking so that they actually looked like they were all working together and not just randomly spread out. I've given the piece just a little stylistic twist by rotating it slightly, which gives the over-all shape of the logo a nice presentation for a shirt.

I'm sorry for any confusion and I hope you know I would never desert the contest. As you an see, I've put a lot of time into these and have done everything you've asked. I have just been planning this vacation ad unfortunately don't have access to the design program on my home computer. I give my word an I have been devoted to your project since the beginnig. Droppping out now would be a wast of my time and yours. Once again I sorry but there's nothing I can do

dcord1 ... really? Wow. Forgive me, but I have no guarantee that you will make the changes once I pick a drawing, and nothing stops anyone from deserting a contest. Wow. I am confused.

Debbi, I am on vacation til Sunday and only have email access so I can't make changes. If you pick my design, I will work with you to get it perfect. Everything can e changed to what you like. Thanks

Can someone please explain the 4 color rule??? we want tshirts on a small budget. Is white a color, within the graphic?

I really like #50 and #51, but I don't think it is the direction we will take. #51 is very clean, and I like it ... thanks so much for the effort.

Hi dcord1! Can you please take #47, placement as is, just go back to the original colors (colors in #14). Take the red and yellow out of the volleyball. Can I see one with ALL of the gears colored in .. (like the soccer ball in #11) and one with ALL of them left alone .. (like the football in #11) THANKS!

Also, one more thing about my design that I wanted to add. This is kind of a draft version of what the final result should be. I really want to put a little more styling in the balls inside the gears, and probably tweak the font a bit. But, I wanted to put the idea out there as soon as possible to get some feedback on it. I know the idea isn't exactly what you put in your brief, so I wanted to make sure I was moving in a good direction before putting a large amount of time into polishing it up.

Debbi - After reading through your brief and going over some of your posts, I thought I would create a design that was a balance between your original concept and my own take on what kind of feel I was getting from your organization. One thing I wanted to note is that while your organization is for kids, a lot of your donations and support will be coming from adults. I really think you should consider a design that can cater to both taste. In this piece that I have submitted, I use bright, bold, fun colors combined with clean geometric lines and lettering to help achieve this goal. I've also chosen to limit the number of gears to 3. While iconography can really help bring a logo to life, too much of it can make it way too noisy and ultimately detract from its purpose. There are a lot of good ideas from your original brief, however, that did get incorporated into the design. Obviously, the original art's idea to have sports balls in the shape of gears was a leading factor. Additionally, each of the gears is connected in a sense that each one is helping to turn the other. We also have the name right justified to the iconography. One last thing, something that I like to tell all my clients that I do design work, is to remember that while a designer maybe designing a logo for you; ultimately, the logo is for the organization. It is important to not only look for something that you want, but also something that will make the organization appear strong and professional. I hope this information helps . All feedback and critiques are welcome.

Hi Debbie, I tried to design something that was related to the youth #49 and #50. I hope you like it. Please give me some feed back. Thanks

best so far ... #47 ..... #34 .... and 11 and 8. I like 31 as well. Jeiji's concept is way cool, I really appreciate the art and will share all ideas with my group!!! 40 hours to go! You guys are great!

Does #47 work?

Center #44 I mean

Sorry to repeat, but If it is hugging ... please center the text on top and on bottom ... you got it though dcord1!

Hi Jeiji, yes, I originally created it round in #2 but Debbi preferred it this way so I kept going forward with it in the more "eye" shape. Thanks for the feedback, I think your designs are creative as well

Okay, Debbi! Got my design up. I hope it represents your organization well, without costing an arm and a leg to print. It's simple, professional, gets your point across, and is an all-around fun design. It was fun to make! I would suggest clicking the entries and scrolling down to read the descriptions I put on them. Good luck with your decision! @dcord1: I like your color options and placement of the type. The only thing that bothers me is that the football gear is football-shaped. I get it, but it makes the gear unfunctional, don't you think? Not that these gears will be turning, or anything, but it's just a though. I like it, though, it's nice!

Hows that?

If it is hugging ... please center the text on top and on bottom ... you got it though dcord1!

hugging defined: hmmm .... like #90 and #76 in the Tsunami drawings. 76 is cool! http://www.designerscontest.com/contest_profile.php?cid=414&page=2 Thanks !!

dcord1 .. thank you, I was just wondering that! On #35, I prefer the one on the right the most, but I am glad you did it both ways, it helps! Can you please take the words allgearedup.org that are on the bottom and make them smaller like, I don't know, by half? Just the words on the bottom. and the bottom allgearedup.org lowercase and a bit more right justified .... UNLESS you can make the letters hug around the picture ... definitely though, allgearedup.org should be small font and lowercase in any attempts on this contest. All caps on top is cool! I want to see what that looks like if you can shoot one up there! Thank you!

Debbi, I changed the font on one but keep in mind it can be changed on all of them, along with colors. I just figured it would be a waste to repost a bunch with a different font. If you decide to go with any of mine, I will work with you to get the right colors and font

Mitchgrafi ... the gears around the smaller balls (#33 and some of the others) are too thick. Can they shrink as the equipment shrinks? I don't like a shadow gear around the graphic either ... do you have any fun ideas with font? I LIKE font that almost looks like you wrote it ... rounded, childlike and filled in but not too fat. LOVE THIS: http://www.dafont.com/king-cool-kc.font?nb_ppp=50

#31 - Fun .... I have an idea ... just to try ....can you take All Geared Up and put it on top of the graphic .. kind of hugging it, or wrapping it, on top ... (make sense) and then under, put allgearedup.com try one right under and one right justified like you have been doing. From my daughters closet, I know she would like this color. Mitchgraffi's blue is a bit more electric (in my totally non artistic opinion) ... Thanks!!!

#31 isn't quite electric blue, I don't think, but it's pretty close to right on the money. Good execution, and attention to color coordination. Also I'll be finally putting my first one up today, so look out for it, Debbi. Nice entry, "dcord1"!

yup ... i hate this part. please know I appreciate the work.

Hey Debbi, I uploaded some more based on your feedback. Can you make some eliminations so we can narrow them down? Thanks

How about electric blue, black and white .. color in things with the blue, outline in black and use white if you need to ... I am definitely not creative. Like this shade of blue: http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/palm/shades/ShadesBlue04.jpg Please don't give up, and thanks for the suggestion on color .... they are just a bunch of kids with no money of their own .... So that bill would ultimately be mine!

Debbi, I just also wanted to say that you might want to keep the color count down to a max of like 4 colors. The design that was just submitted MitchGraphix (#24) has 14 colors. That would make the printing process impeccably expensive. Most places consider 8 colors an extended maximum. But that is if you want to get it screen printed (over all best quality of printing). If you want it to be simulated processed, you can have as many colors as you want, but they charge a bit more sometimes, and the quality isn't as good, as the colors fade and it cracks with the stretching of the shirt, which is something you wouldn't want in an active wear attire. Not to poke holes in your design, Mitch, but you might want to re-use some colors, and make sure they're pantone to reduce costs.

1. Does anyone know how to make these look like they have depth? Shading or something? ............. SEPARATELY...2. does anyone want to do some funky colors? These kids are young, so maybe the graphic with a young appeal would be fun .... electric blues, or something .... a fun font? I saw one that starts out tall, the letters gradually get smaller and then gradually bigger again??? Thanks!!!

Jeiji .... Yes, I am absolutely open to ideas and you are totally right! I am intimidated by the process, as I do not want to waste anyone's time, but sheesh, I would LOVE to see some of the creativity that is out there! I was also just trying to be respectful of the young lady that drew up her idea, I will show her everything, and she will probably surprise me! Thanks again.

Hey, Debbi, are you open to change, and ideas? Because this site's loaded with people who can offer up plenty of marketable notions and concepts. The reason you have only gotten two separate artists is because you've got this picture in your head of what you want, but really, people might not know what they want until they see it. It's really nice that you had someone associated to you draw something up, but coming to this site means you wanted something more than what you could originally get. I guess I've gotten a little bit off-track, but I guess I'm just gunna' end with the point that I want to offer up some ideas that I think will get your point across, look professional, and be easily printed and usable in many venues. Just asking you to hear me out on this. You'll see my designs quite rapidly, as I've noticed that your contest is ending shortly. Good luck!

That worked... Thank You!

You can try scrolling over the ones you want so it makes them larger, then hitting the "print screen button" on your keyboard. This essentially copies the screen at that moment. Then, go into Microsoft Word and hit "control v" or "edit, paste" and it will paste the screen. If that doesnt work, you can let me know which ones you want and I can try to email over JPEGS to you.

I must have tried that 100 times .. it captures the leave_feedback graphic and not the drawing. I feel stupid???

You can right click, save as a jpeg to your computer and print them from there

I need to print these out to take to a meeting? Does anyone know how to do that?

Schwuch87 ??

#14 is what you asked and similar to #13, just spread the images around more

Is #13 what you mean? Thanks

dcord1, thank you, but will you be able to make the changes to #5? That is the original design that I asked for. I agree .. your changes are very clean, but primarily, I need the original idea, which is #5 with the mods that I sent a few times. All the best!

I added a few more with different font uses. Show them to the founder and see what she thinks and we can go from there. Thanks

hey, I'm working on creating a design to maybe help out. (Just wanted to give you a heads up.. more to come)

Dcord1, I want to keep #6 and #7 going because I LOVE them.. gosh. The line up and art are perfect. Perfect placement. (don't love either font) Problem is, this is not how the young artist envisioned the logo, but there is a chance she will like it. Do you mind changing the font, and I will have her take a peek! I definitely won't ask you to waste any time unnecessarily. I love it, but suspect that she will want her original idea.

dcord 1 ... great work! On #5 can you change the ball sizes (like you did in #7) and remove one of the baseballs and one of the volleyballs. (maybe that will look less, but maintain the idea) The font is too far to the right and too big in relationship to the graphic. It is not my favorite font but I do like that it is kind of rounded and filled in. This layout is what I will likely use because it is similar to the image that was drawn by the co-founder (she is 17) Let’s make this one better … if there is a way! The graphic will be used on our website, and on printed material. Imagine it printed on the side of a tshirt like a Ralph Lauren or Lacoste logo. (I don’t know which side that is!)

Also, Since I'm stating to post a lot, please let me know what elements you like from what designs, so I don't get confused and we can get something you like in the end. Thanks!

Thanks Debbi, What do you think of the newest version with the stacked text?

dcord1 .... #5 ... cool, can you make the tennis and baseballs smaller, and the soccer and vball slightly different sizes ... like real life (there has to be a better way to say that in your art world, but it escapes me... sorry.) Great job with the football! On some of the other contests, I like the way they did the name .. I will want to tweak that, but have none of my own ideas as of yet! Thanks so much!

I agree, I think 2 of each ball around the outside may be too much. Keep the comments coming, they are helpful. Thanks

I will remove #2 (if I can figure out how ... BUT, I like it the most .... aside from the feedback, so don't lose it. It is bold and colorful, and honestly 9 balls may be too many dcord1! What do you think? Maybe if you can change the sizes it will be ok? I really like a lot about #2. I will be away from the computer for 3 or 4 hours but will take a look asap! Thank you all so much!

dcord1 - thank you for taking a shot ... looks good! can you stretch the football so that it is shaped like an eye, while maintaining the gears? can you make the tennis and baseballs obviously smaller, more real life size like? In the end, the graphic should be longer side to side and shorter from top to bottom, if that makes sense. Can you do anything cool with the name? It is a bit too far to the right. I really really appreciate the work!

Please remove #2 I foolishly forgot the soccer ball

Thanks for the input, will work on that.

Oh.... also, can you separate out the ball families ..... meaning .... football in the middle ... then around it ... starting in the left tip of the football and going clockwise ... vollleyball, tennis, baseball, soccer, volleyball, tennis, baseball, soccer! Thanks again. I hope this is fun and not a pain!

Dkap, you have the idea. The Org is called all geared up ... they give sports 'gear' to kids in need .... and they want the balls to look like gears that move around each other.... that can't move without the help of the others. The gears here ( http://cubsandme.com/images/gear_shape.gif ) show the edges that I am talking about. You don't have to do 3D of course! Also, the football is the center, but the size should be like real life. so the tennis and baseballs would be smaller and the football soccer and volleyballs would be similar ... all relative. Make sense? Thank you so much! Do you have text fonts that I can choose from? All the best!